[Django] #30597: Improve documentation on reseting an app's migrations to zero

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#30597: Improve documentation on reseting an app's migrations to zero
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               Reporter:  Keryn Knight   |          Owner:  nobody
                   Type:  New feature    |         Status:  new
              Component:  Documentation  |        Version:  master
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 This came on IRC a while back, because someone didn't know how to
 effectively undo everything they'd done.

 The entire documentation that I can find is as follows:
 `python manage.py migrate --help` says **Use the name "zero" to unapply
 all migrations**, and so does [https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/2.2/ref
 /django-admin/#migrate this page]. That's it.

 It's not clear what ''unapplying'' migrations means, unless you're
 familiar with it already - it's not described
 [https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/2.2/topics/migrations/ on this page]
 after searching for "unapply" or "undo" or "reset" or "restart", nor is it
 clarified in the help text for the command,  and the process of resetting
 an app's state to start-from-scratch isn't mentioned at all in the
 migrations docs, except for this tiny affordance.

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#30597: Improve documentation on reseting an app's migrations to zero
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     Reporter:  Keryn Knight   |                    Owner:  nobody
         Type:  New feature    |                   Status:  new
    Component:  Documentation  |                  Version:  master
     Severity:  Normal         |               Resolution:
     Keywords:                 |             Triage Stage:  Unreviewed
    Has patch:  0              |      Needs documentation:  0
  Needs tests:  0              |  Patch needs improvement:  0
Easy pickings:  0              |                    UI/UX:  0
-------------------------------+--------------------------------------
Description changed by Keryn Knight:

Old description:

> This came on IRC a while back, because someone didn't know how to
> effectively undo everything they'd done.
>
> The entire documentation that I can find is as follows:
> `python manage.py migrate --help` says **Use the name "zero" to unapply
> all migrations**, and so does [https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/2.2/ref
> /django-admin/#migrate this page]. That's it.
>
> It's not clear what ''unapplying'' migrations means, unless you're
> familiar with it already - it's not described
> [https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/2.2/topics/migrations/ on this page]
> after searching for "unapply" or "undo" or "reset" or "restart", nor is
> it clarified in the help text for the command,  and the process of
> resetting an app's state to start-from-scratch isn't mentioned at all in
> the migrations docs, except for this tiny affordance.
New description:

 This came on IRC a while back, because someone didn't know how to
 effectively undo everything they'd done.

 The entire documentation that I can find is as follows:
 `python manage.py migrate --help` says **Use the name "zero" to unapply
 all migrations**, and so does [https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/2.2/ref
 /django-admin/#migrate this page]. That's it.

 It's not clear what ''unapplying'' migrations means, unless you're
 familiar with it already - it's not described
 [https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/2.2/topics/migrations/ on this page]
 after searching for "unapply" or "undo" or "reset" or "restart" or "zero",
 nor is it clarified in the help text for the command,  and the process of
 resetting an app's state to start-from-scratch isn't mentioned at all in
 the migrations docs, except for this tiny affordance.

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Re: [Django] #30597: Improve documentation on reseting an app's migrations to zero. (was: Improve documentation on reseting an app's migrations to zero)

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#30597: Improve documentation on reseting an app's migrations to zero.
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     Reporter:  Keryn Knight         |                    Owner:  nobody
         Type:                       |                   Status:  new
  Cleanup/optimization               |
    Component:  Documentation        |                  Version:  master
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    Has patch:  0                    |      Needs documentation:  0
  Needs tests:  0                    |  Patch needs improvement:  0
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-------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Changes (by felixxm):

 * type:  New feature => Cleanup/optimization


Comment:

 Thanks for the report. I'm not sure how we could clarify what
 `"unapplying" migrations` means, it seems clear to me. Moreover my
 understanding is that it's not a common use case to unapply all migrations
 to "zero" state, so I don't think that it deserves a separate section in
 [https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/2.2/topics/migrations/ "migrations
 topics"].

 [https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/2.2/topics/migrations/ "migrations
 topics"] contains information that `migrate` is responsible for unapplying
 migrations and also a link to the
 [https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/2.2/ref/django-admin/#migrate "migrate
 doc"] with `zero` option (added 6 years ago, see
 162f7b938f6cff91b1e4d6086ddcc88cbb1a1cd6).

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Re: [Django] #30597: Improve documentation on reseting an app's migrations to zero.

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#30597: Improve documentation on reseting an app's migrations to zero.
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     Reporter:  Keryn Knight         |                    Owner:  nobody
         Type:                       |                   Status:  new
  Cleanup/optimization               |
    Component:  Documentation        |                  Version:  master
     Severity:  Normal               |               Resolution:
     Keywords:                       |             Triage Stage:
                                     |  Unreviewed
    Has patch:  0                    |      Needs documentation:  0
  Needs tests:  0                    |  Patch needs improvement:  0
Easy pickings:  0                    |                    UI/UX:  0
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Comment (by Keryn Knight):

 > Thanks for the report. I'm not sure how we could clarify what
 `"unapplying" migrations` means, it seems clear to me.

 You're not the target audience though. Nor am I. All the synonyms I used
 in searching are ones I might expect new/inexperienced users to be looking
 for.

 > Moreover my understanding is that it's not a common use case to unapply
 all migrations to "zero" state, so I don't think that it deserves a
 separate section in migrations topics.

 That it's uncommon is ''precisely why it should have documentation''
 beyond the brief throwaway comment* the management command has. It's built
 in and supported! Every time someone has to do so for the first time, it's
 either under guidance from someone who knows better, or it's by trial and
 error. That should not be the case, because there is **one** way to do it,
 and one way only, and it's mostly that the concept isn't even
 ''discussed'' which leaves the user out in the cold.

 It comes up relatively frequently on IRC that people get their migrations
 all in a muddle, and usually their answer is to just obliterate their
 database (sqlite usually) entirely (sometimes rightly, sometimes wrongly).
 But it's literally a solved problem from the framework's point of view:
 you can either reset to zero or your migrations and/or schema are so
 ruined that you need to start over or intervene manually.

 ^^* tbh, even South's documentation is better here, though it's almost as
 throwaway: ''Note that, if the system has already migrated past the
 specified migration, it will roll back to it instead. If you want to
 migrate all the way back, specify the special migration name zero''

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#30597: Improve documentation on reseting an app's migrations to zero.
--------------------------------------+------------------------------------
     Reporter:  Keryn Knight          |                    Owner:  nobody
         Type:  Cleanup/optimization  |                   Status:  new
    Component:  Documentation         |                  Version:  master
     Severity:  Normal                |               Resolution:
     Keywords:                        |             Triage Stage:  Accepted
    Has patch:  0                     |      Needs documentation:  0
  Needs tests:  0                     |  Patch needs improvement:  0
Easy pickings:  0                     |                    UI/UX:  0
--------------------------------------+------------------------------------
Changes (by felixxm):

 * stage:  Unreviewed => Accepted


Comment:

 OK, agreed. We can evaluate PR with documentation improvement in this
 area.

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#30597: Improve documentation on reseting an app's migrations to zero.
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     Reporter:  Keryn Knight          |                    Owner:  nobody
         Type:  Cleanup/optimization  |                   Status:  new
    Component:  Documentation         |                  Version:  master
     Severity:  Normal                |               Resolution:
     Keywords:                        |             Triage Stage:  Accepted
    Has patch:  0                     |      Needs documentation:  0
  Needs tests:  0                     |  Patch needs improvement:  0
Easy pickings:  0                     |                    UI/UX:  0
--------------------------------------+------------------------------------

Comment (by felixxm):

 Keryn, I hope you are interested in submitting a patch.

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#30597: Improve documentation on reseting an app's migrations to zero.
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     Reporter:  Keryn Knight          |                    Owner:  nobody
         Type:  Cleanup/optimization  |                   Status:  new
    Component:  Documentation         |                  Version:  master
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    Has patch:  0                     |      Needs documentation:  0
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Easy pickings:  0                     |                    UI/UX:  0
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Comment (by tapaswenipathak):

 Hi folks: Can I PR?

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#30597: Improve documentation on reseting an app's migrations to zero.
-------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
     Reporter:  Keryn Knight         |                    Owner:
         Type:                       |  davidmgvaz
  Cleanup/optimization               |                   Status:  assigned
    Component:  Documentation        |                  Version:  master
     Severity:  Normal               |               Resolution:
     Keywords:                       |             Triage Stage:  Accepted
    Has patch:  0                    |      Needs documentation:  0
  Needs tests:  0                    |  Patch needs improvement:  0
Easy pickings:  0                    |                    UI/UX:  0
-------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
Changes (by davidmgvaz):

 * owner:  nobody => davidmgvaz
 * status:  new => assigned


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#30597: Improve documentation on reseting an app's migrations to zero.
-------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
     Reporter:  Keryn Knight         |                    Owner:  David Vaz
         Type:                       |                   Status:  assigned
  Cleanup/optimization               |
    Component:  Documentation        |                  Version:  master
     Severity:  Normal               |               Resolution:
     Keywords:                       |             Triage Stage:  Accepted
    Has patch:  0                    |      Needs documentation:  0
  Needs tests:  0                    |  Patch needs improvement:  0
Easy pickings:  0                    |                    UI/UX:  0
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Comment (by David Vaz):

 [https://github.com/django/django/pull/11821 PR on Github]

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#30597: Improve documentation on reseting an app's migrations to zero.
-------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
     Reporter:  Keryn Knight         |                    Owner:  David Vaz
         Type:                       |                   Status:  assigned
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     Keywords:                       |             Triage Stage:  Accepted
    Has patch:  1                    |      Needs documentation:  0
  Needs tests:  0                    |  Patch needs improvement:  0
Easy pickings:  0                    |                    UI/UX:  0
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Changes (by felixxm):

 * has_patch:  0 => 1


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#30597: Improve documentation on reseting an app's migrations to zero.
-------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
     Reporter:  Keryn Knight         |                    Owner:  David Vaz
         Type:                       |                   Status:  assigned
  Cleanup/optimization               |
    Component:  Documentation        |                  Version:  master
     Severity:  Normal               |               Resolution:
     Keywords:                       |             Triage Stage:  Accepted
    Has patch:  1                    |      Needs documentation:  0
  Needs tests:  0                    |  Patch needs improvement:  1
Easy pickings:  0                    |                    UI/UX:  0
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Changes (by felixxm):

 * needs_better_patch:  0 => 1


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#30597: Improve documentation on reseting an app's migrations to zero.
-------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
     Reporter:  Keryn Knight         |                    Owner:  David Vaz
         Type:                       |                   Status:  assigned
  Cleanup/optimization               |
    Component:  Documentation        |                  Version:  master
     Severity:  Normal               |               Resolution:
     Keywords:                       |             Triage Stage:  Accepted
    Has patch:  1                    |      Needs documentation:  0
  Needs tests:  0                    |  Patch needs improvement:  1
Easy pickings:  0                    |                    UI/UX:  0
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Comment (by Mariusz Felisiak <felisiak.mariusz@…>):

 In [changeset:"5d40de08566cc7f0987ea414e06f37e6ed4e019a" 5d40de0]:
 {{{
 #!CommitTicketReference repository=""
 revision="5d40de08566cc7f0987ea414e06f37e6ed4e019a"
 [3.0.x] Refs #30597 -- Added a warning about dependent apps when
 unapplying migrations.

 Backport of abba563c8635a52e8b657dee7708202e1f69433c from master
 }}}

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Re: [Django] #30597: Improve documentation on reseting an app's migrations to zero.

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#30597: Improve documentation on reseting an app's migrations to zero.
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     Reporter:  Keryn Knight         |                    Owner:  David Vaz
         Type:                       |                   Status:  assigned
  Cleanup/optimization               |
    Component:  Documentation        |                  Version:  master
     Severity:  Normal               |               Resolution:
     Keywords:                       |             Triage Stage:  Accepted
    Has patch:  1                    |      Needs documentation:  0
  Needs tests:  0                    |  Patch needs improvement:  1
Easy pickings:  0                    |                    UI/UX:  0
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Comment (by Mariusz Felisiak <felisiak.mariusz@…>):

 In [changeset:"abba563c8635a52e8b657dee7708202e1f69433c" abba563c]:
 {{{
 #!CommitTicketReference repository=""
 revision="abba563c8635a52e8b657dee7708202e1f69433c"
 Refs #30597 -- Added a warning about dependent apps when unapplying
 migrations.
 }}}

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#30597: Improve documentation on reseting an app's migrations to zero.
-------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
     Reporter:  Keryn Knight         |                    Owner:  David Vaz
         Type:                       |                   Status:  assigned
  Cleanup/optimization               |
    Component:  Documentation        |                  Version:  master
     Severity:  Normal               |               Resolution:
     Keywords:                       |             Triage Stage:  Accepted
    Has patch:  1                    |      Needs documentation:  0
  Needs tests:  0                    |  Patch needs improvement:  1
Easy pickings:  0                    |                    UI/UX:  0
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Comment (by Mariusz Felisiak <felisiak.mariusz@…>):

 In [changeset:"1ac2f25ec091847a2db313210eb9743ed3b0dabf" 1ac2f25e]:
 {{{
 #!CommitTicketReference repository=""
 revision="1ac2f25ec091847a2db313210eb9743ed3b0dabf"
 [2.2.x] Refs #30597 -- Added a warning about dependent apps when
 unapplying migrations.

 Backport of abba563c8635a52e8b657dee7708202e1f69433c from master
 }}}

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#30597: Improve documentation on reseting an app's migrations to zero.
-------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
     Reporter:  Keryn Knight         |                    Owner:  David Vaz
         Type:                       |                   Status:  assigned
  Cleanup/optimization               |
    Component:  Documentation        |                  Version:  master
     Severity:  Normal               |               Resolution:
     Keywords:                       |             Triage Stage:  Ready for
                                     |  checkin
    Has patch:  1                    |      Needs documentation:  0
  Needs tests:  0                    |  Patch needs improvement:  0
Easy pickings:  0                    |                    UI/UX:  0
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Changes (by felixxm):

 * needs_better_patch:  1 => 0
 * stage:  Accepted => Ready for checkin


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Re: [Django] #30597: Improve documentation on reseting an app's migrations to zero.

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#30597: Improve documentation on reseting an app's migrations to zero.
-------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
     Reporter:  Keryn Knight         |                    Owner:  David Vaz
         Type:                       |                   Status:  closed
  Cleanup/optimization               |
    Component:  Documentation        |                  Version:  master
     Severity:  Normal               |               Resolution:  fixed
     Keywords:                       |             Triage Stage:  Ready for
                                     |  checkin
    Has patch:  1                    |      Needs documentation:  0
  Needs tests:  0                    |  Patch needs improvement:  0
Easy pickings:  0                    |                    UI/UX:  0
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Changes (by Mariusz Felisiak <felisiak.mariusz@…>):

 * status:  assigned => closed
 * resolution:   => fixed


Comment:

 In [changeset:"45554fd5c5c6a536db3ce70d78646d3dc398cf08" 45554fd5]:
 {{{
 #!CommitTicketReference repository=""
 revision="45554fd5c5c6a536db3ce70d78646d3dc398cf08"
 Fixed #30597 -- Clarified how to unapply migrations.
 }}}

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#30597: Improve documentation on reseting an app's migrations to zero.
-------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
     Reporter:  Keryn Knight         |                    Owner:  David Vaz
         Type:                       |                   Status:  closed
  Cleanup/optimization               |
    Component:  Documentation        |                  Version:  master
     Severity:  Normal               |               Resolution:  fixed
     Keywords:                       |             Triage Stage:  Ready for
                                     |  checkin
    Has patch:  1                    |      Needs documentation:  0
  Needs tests:  0                    |  Patch needs improvement:  0
Easy pickings:  0                    |                    UI/UX:  0
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Comment (by Mariusz Felisiak <felisiak.mariusz@…>):

 In [changeset:"0c655f1df2b167d7f24cf41910500850722b0c17" 0c655f1d]:
 {{{
 #!CommitTicketReference repository=""
 revision="0c655f1df2b167d7f24cf41910500850722b0c17"
 [3.0.x] Fixed #30597 -- Clarified how to unapply migrations.

 Backport of 45554fd5c5c6a536db3ce70d78646d3dc398cf08 from master
 }}}

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#30597: Improve documentation on reseting an app's migrations to zero.
-------------------------------------+-------------------------------------
     Reporter:  Keryn Knight         |                    Owner:  David Vaz
         Type:                       |                   Status:  closed
  Cleanup/optimization               |
    Component:  Documentation        |                  Version:  master
     Severity:  Normal               |               Resolution:  fixed
     Keywords:                       |             Triage Stage:  Ready for
                                     |  checkin
    Has patch:  1                    |      Needs documentation:  0
  Needs tests:  0                    |  Patch needs improvement:  0
Easy pickings:  0                    |                    UI/UX:  0
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Comment (by Mariusz Felisiak <felisiak.mariusz@…>):

 In [changeset:"4116b369b191f1830bbe761fa7fb29bf1becc8ef" 4116b369]:
 {{{
 #!CommitTicketReference repository=""
 revision="4116b369b191f1830bbe761fa7fb29bf1becc8ef"
 [2.2.x] Fixed #30597 -- Clarified how to unapply migrations.

 Backport of 45554fd5c5c6a536db3ce70d78646d3dc398cf08 from master
 }}}

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