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Richard Jones-7
Those who were at PyCon AU would've been pretty impressed by the
number of jobs advertised on the whiteboards (we had to add one when
the first filled up!). Just in the last 24 hours a couple of jobs have
popped up on the python.org job board as well:

http://www.python.org/community/jobs/index.html#buildingiq-sydney-australia
sounds very interesting.

And the one below it which is in Melbourne.

Interesting times to be a Python developer!


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Tennessee Leeuwenburg-3
Someone was talking to me about an interest in this area just last
week. Damn memory, who was it?!?!?

Definitely an interesting time to be in Python! :)

On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Richard Jones <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Those who were at PyCon AU would've been pretty impressed by the
> number of jobs advertised on the whiteboards (we had to add one when
> the first filled up!). Just in the last 24 hours a couple of jobs have
> popped up on the python.org job board as well:
>
> http://www.python.org/community/jobs/index.html#buildingiq-sydney-australia
> sounds very interesting.
>
> And the one below it which is in Melbourne.
>
> Interesting times to be a Python developer!
>
>
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Javier Candeira
Sorry to say I can't attend MPUG meets for the foreseeable future,
what with work and a small baby. I still wanted to say hi. So...

Hi everyone, top-posting is not *always* evil, is it?


On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Tennessee Leeuwenburg
<[hidden email]> wrote:
> Someone was talking to me about an interest in this area just last
> week. Damn memory, who was it?!?!?
>
> Definitely an interesting time to be in Python! :)

Dammit, and I have just switched to Scala!

Cheers,

Javier

> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Richard Jones <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Those who were at PyCon AU would've been pretty impressed by the
>> number of jobs advertised on the whiteboards (we had to add one when
>> the first filled up!). Just in the last 24 hours a couple of jobs have
>> popped up on the python.org job board as well:
>>
>> http://www.python.org/community/jobs/index.html#buildingiq-sydney-australia
>> sounds very interesting.
>>
>> And the one below it which is in Melbourne.
>>
>> Interesting times to be a Python developer!
>>
>>
>>    Richard
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Noon Silk
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Javier Candeira <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Sorry to say I can't attend MPUG meets for the foreseeable future,
> what with work and a small baby. I still wanted to say hi. So...
>
> Hi everyone, top-posting is not *always* evil, is it?

I can't find the better version of this, (despite having read it
recently?!) so please accept this smaller offering instead:

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

As to the job,  qouting:

> "Must be able to develop a deep, intuitive understanding of a suite of complex software products in a technically challenging domain"

Won't it be nice when this read as:

> "Must be able to understand simple, beautiful, elegant software products in a technically challenging domain"

:)

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Javier Candeira
Because it was told there would be no top-posting on the other side.
Why did the chicken cross the road?

Hugs,

Javier

On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Noon Silk <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Javier Candeira <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Sorry to say I can't attend MPUG meets for the foreseeable future,
>> what with work and a small baby. I still wanted to say hi. So...
>>
>> Hi everyone, top-posting is not *always* evil, is it?
>
> I can't find the better version of this, (despite having read it
> recently?!) so please accept this smaller offering instead:
>
> A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
>
> As to the job,  qouting:
>
>> "Must be able to develop a deep, intuitive understanding of a suite of complex software products in a technically challenging domain"
>
> Won't it be nice when this read as:
>
>> "Must be able to understand simple, beautiful, elegant software products in a technically challenging domain"
>
> :)
>
> --
> Noon Silk
>
> Fancy a quantum lunch? http://groups.google.com/group/quantum-lunch?hl=en
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Tennessee Leeuwenburg-3
For any two-message pair, bottom-posting rules. For any long-running
thread, top-posting wins through convenience. When quoting is
required, bottom-posting rules. When posting an entire fresh message,
top-posting is substantially easier in most mail clients.

For any group of people, there will always be diversity of practise...

Cheers,
-T

On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Javier Candeira <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Because it was told there would be no top-posting on the other side.
> Why did the chicken cross the road?
>
> Hugs,
>
> Javier
>
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Noon Silk <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Javier Candeira <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> Sorry to say I can't attend MPUG meets for the foreseeable future,
>>> what with work and a small baby. I still wanted to say hi. So...
>>>
>>> Hi everyone, top-posting is not *always* evil, is it?
>>
>> I can't find the better version of this, (despite having read it
>> recently?!) so please accept this smaller offering instead:
>>
>> A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
>> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
>>
>> As to the job,  qouting:
>>
>>> "Must be able to develop a deep, intuitive understanding of a suite of complex software products in a technically challenging domain"
>>
>> Won't it be nice when this read as:
>>
>>> "Must be able to understand simple, beautiful, elegant software products in a technically challenging domain"
>>
>> :)
>>
>> --
>> Noon Silk
>>
>> Fancy a quantum lunch? http://groups.google.com/group/quantum-lunch?hl=en
>>
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>> of being this signature."
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Jonathan Morgan
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Hi,

On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Noon Silk <[hidden email]> wrote:
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Javier Candeira <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Sorry to say I can't attend MPUG meets for the foreseeable future,
> what with work and a small baby. I still wanted to say hi. So...
>
> Hi everyone, top-posting is not *always* evil, is it?

I can't find the better version of this, (despite having read it
recently?!) so please accept this smaller offering instead:

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

As to the job,  qouting:

> "Must be able to develop a deep, intuitive understanding of a suite of complex software products in a technically challenging domain"

Won't it be nice when this read as:

> "Must be able to understand simple, beautiful, elegant software products in a technically challenging domain"

Jumping into the debate philosophically: there are multiple reasons for complexity.  The software might be complex because the domain is complex, because requirements are poorly organised and mapped to software, because different companies have different requirements, because different types of users are involved with dramatically different interaction requirements, or because the software design/architecture/code is complex.  I think it's quite possible for software to get more complex developing the wrong software in the right way (at a micro level) than developing the right software with the right scope in the wrong way (though I'm sure I hate complex code at least as much as anyone here).

I personally prefer working with software in a complex domain and trying to understand how the complexities of the software fit into the domain and vice versa.  I find it gives much more satisfaction if I know what problems I am solving in the real world (which isn't always the same as the software problem you think you are solving).

Jon


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