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Re: [Tutor] Tutor Digest, Vol 98, Issue 7

Walter Luna
Dear Python friends: 

Thank you for the rapid response, I researched the information you sent me and it has a lot of resources that I can use. I will use some of those resources and continue with my learning journey, I am sure that I will have a lot of questions but I feel confident that I have your support. 

Best regards 

Walter Luna

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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: New to Python programing (Wayne Werner)
  2. Re: breeds of Python ..... (Wayne Werner)
  3. New to Python programing (Cranky Frankie)
  4. Re: New to Python programing (Christian Witts)
  5. Re: New to Python programing (Cranky Frankie)
  6. Open source projects build using Python (Simon Yan)
  7. Question about login=''.join(choice(lc) for j in  range(llen))
     (Khalid Al-Ghamdi)


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Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 05:02:13 -0500 (CDT)
From: Wayne Werner <[hidden email]>
To: wesley chun <[hidden email]>
Cc: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>, Walter Luna
       <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Tutor] New to Python programing
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On Mon, 2 Apr 2012, wesley chun wrote:

> greetings walter, and welcome to the Python family!
<snip>
> as far as books go, the best way to learn Python is by writing games.
> this is an approach that works both with children as well as adults.
> there are several excellent books that can help you with this regard:

There is another book that I didn't notice mentioned: Game Programming: The L line, the express
line to learning.

The book is unfortunately named because it makes no mention of Python, but it's
quite a good book for learning both programming and Python... and games!

Good luck and welcome to Python!
-Wayne Werner


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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 05:12:38 -0500 (CDT)
From: Wayne Werner <[hidden email]>
To: Modulok <[hidden email]>
Cc: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Tutor] breeds of Python .....
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On Sat, 31 Mar 2012, Modulok wrote:
> If you're just starting out, go with 3.x. If you have a need for some third
> party modules that aren't yet available for 3.x, you'll have to stick with 2.x.

For a handy list, check out the Python3 Wall of Shame (soon to be superpowers?)
http://python3wos.appspot.com/

HTH,
Wayne


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Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 09:50:01 -0400
From: Cranky Frankie <[hidden email]>
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Subject: [Tutor] New to Python programing
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Another resourse for learning to program is YouTube. They just had a
segment on "60 Minutes" about a guy who does all kinds of well
regarded free courses on-line, unfortunately I can't remberber the
URL. I've viewed several Stanford University programming courses, and
there are many Python specific vidoes there as well. Just something
else to check out.

--
Frank L. "Cranky Frankie" Palmeri
Risible Riding Raconteur & Writer
?The problem with quotes on the Internet is that
it is often difficult to verify their authenticity.?
- Abraham Lincoln


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Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2012 16:09:21 +0200
From: Christian Witts <[hidden email]>
To: Cranky Frankie <[hidden email]>
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On 2012/04/03 03:50 PM, Cranky Frankie wrote:
> Another resourse for learning to program is YouTube. They just had a
> segment on "60 Minutes" about a guy who does all kinds of well
> regarded free courses on-line, unfortunately I can't remberber the
> URL. I've viewed several Stanford University programming courses, and
> there are many Python specific vidoes there as well. Just something
> else to check out.
>
Are you possibly thinking of the Khan Academy [1] ?

[1] http://www.khanacademy.org/
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Christian Witts
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Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 10:12:36 -0400
From: Cranky Frankie <[hidden email]>
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On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 10:09 AM, Christian Witts <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Are you possibly thinking of the Khan Academy [1] ?
>
> [1] http://www.khanacademy.org/

Yes, that was it, thanks.


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Frank L. "Cranky Frankie" Palmeri
Risible Riding Raconteur & Writer
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it is often difficult to verify their authenticity.?
- Abraham Lincoln


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Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 22:45:48 +0800
From: Simon Yan <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [Tutor] Open source projects build using Python
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Dear All,

I've been working on Python for a while but haven't got any chance to work
on any projects yet. I've spent most of my time reading codes. (I know this
is bad when you want to actually learn a programming language)
It would be a better idea that I can start to join an open source projects
that is built with Python instead of starting up a new project. (I have no
good ideas at this moment anyways) I know there are lots of projects which
I can work on, but just wanted to hear some recommendations what are the
ones good for a long time Python "reader"?

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Regards,
YeeYaa (Simon Yan)

http://simonyan.fedorapeople.org/
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Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 17:54:12 +0300
From: Khalid Al-Ghamdi <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [Tutor] Question about login=''.join(choice(lc) for j in
       range(llen))
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Hi,

The following code tries to generate some dummy data for regex exercises.
My question is in reference the line before last:

   dom="".join(choice(lc) for j in range (dlen))

how does the interpreter know what "j" is supposed to refer to when it was
not mentioned prior?


from random import randrange, choice
from string import ascii_lowercase as lc
from sys import maxsize
from time import ctime

tlds = ('com', 'edu', 'net', 'org', 'gov')

for i in range(randrange(5,11)):
   dtint=randrange(maxsize)    #pick a random number to use to generate
random date in next line
   dtstr=ctime(dtint)          #date string
   llen=randrange(4,8)         #login is shorter
   login=''.join(choice(lc) for j in range(llen))
   dlen=randrange(llen,13)     #domain is longer
   dom="".join(choice(lc) for j in range (dlen))

print('{}::{}@{}.{}::{}-{}-{}'.format(dtstr,login,dom,choice(tlds),dtint,llen,dlen))
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Re: [Tutor] Tutor Digest, Vol 98, Issue 7

Alan Gauld
On 04/04/12 17:35, Walter Luna wrote:
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[Tutor] How to reply - best practice.

Bob Gailer
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On 4/4/2012 12:35 PM, Walter Luna wrote:
> Dear Python friends:
>
> Thank you for the rapid response, I researched the information you
> sent me and it has a lot of resources that I can use. I will use some
> of those resources and continue with my learning journey, I am sure
> that I will have a lot of questions but I feel confident that I have
> your support.

Glad we could help.

To make our lives easier please only include relevant text, and make the
subject also relevant.

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