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Re: pygtk Digest, Vol 155, Issue 4

Reuben Rissler
On 06/26/2017 12:00 AM, [hidden email] wrote:
>     1. Re: Problems compiling and installing PyGTK 2.24.0 (Dedeco Balaco)
-- snip --

>> You can just "apt-get source", "dpkg-buildpackage" and "dkpg -i" gajim
>> and each of its dependencies (including Build-depends) separately.
>>
>> But given that your python/gtk install is apparently messed up, you
>> might need to clean up the mess first.
>>
>> People on #debian-python would probably be able to help you better than
>> me (I can at most suggest to check/compare sys.path and the output of
>> "print gtk")... but in their place, I guess I would just answer "if you
>> install libraries from upstream sources, you should know what you are
>> doing".
>
> No, my python gtk is not messed up. Python is as it was installed, and
> possibly with a few automatic updates done by the OS. The only mess that
> needs to be undone is something related to what my actions with the
> PyGTK source. It did *not* affect what is installed, I do not know why.
> I need help here! There are things I have never done before, or did just
> indirectly.
>
> Note that all other programs (or similar) that I manipulated source code
> did not have any problem. Configured, built, installed and tested,
> everything was fine.
>
> With PyGTK, the tests I am doing are not working. This is possibly a
> consequence of something not being made as it should, or a few steps
> that were not done. This is where I looking for help in this list.
>
> 'apt-get source' and 'dpkg-b..p' are not an option because the version
> they get is not as new as I want. And the projects are open source! "You
> should know what you are doing". That is a harsh way to put it, it
> leaves empty someone trying to really use valuable things, instead of
> just knowing that "it exists, but only someone else is able to use
> those". We should be able to use the source codes as the official
> projects make them available - or we should put a bug report about
> exceptions, problems? I have a reasonable experience with sources, but I
> do not know everything - not even close to that! Why is it being so hard
> to get some help here?
>
> I think I have showed enough of what I have done and the results of each
> action. If something else is needed, just ask. If something did not work
> as it should, please point it, as it should be a clue to where the
> problem is. And the problem is not the fact I am using the projects'
> source code. Right? Yes! I am trying the best possibilities I have.
>
>
I may be directing this to the wrong email. If so, please excuse me and
let me know.

Anyway, I have followed the pygtk mailing list for a year now, just to
know what is going on in the pygtk world. Partly because I was
instrumental in getting Pycam ported to Gtk3 and GObject Introspection
(a work in progress). And partly because I never programmed pygtk,
always Gtk3.

My question is, why are you trying to compile pygtk from source? I mean,
why not port gajim to Gtk3? I checked gajim's site and see they are
using pygtk, but maybe they need someone to port it to Gtk3;) IMHO, you
are wasting your time playing with pygtk, seeing how active this list is
(sarcasm intended) , but maybe you lots of play time.

As a side note, it took me about a total of one days time to port Pycam
to Gtk3 (with the help from the original Pycam devs).

Note two, at some point in the near future, the community will drop
pygtk and all the software that depends on it. This just happened to
some of Mono based software. In the end I was happy, because I found
better software to replace it.

Yours, Reuben
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Re: pygtk Digest, Vol 155, Issue 4

Yann Leboulanger
Gajim is already ported to GTK3 in our master branch. Not yet released,
but work is nearly releasable ...

--
Yann


On 26/06/2017 13:18, Reuben Rissler wrote:

> On 06/26/2017 12:00 AM, [hidden email] wrote:
>>     1. Re: Problems compiling and installing PyGTK 2.24.0 (Dedeco
>> Balaco)
> -- snip --
>>> You can just "apt-get source", "dpkg-buildpackage" and "dkpg -i" gajim
>>> and each of its dependencies (including Build-depends) separately.
>>>
>>> But given that your python/gtk install is apparently messed up, you
>>> might need to clean up the mess first.
>>>
>>> People on #debian-python would probably be able to help you better than
>>> me (I can at most suggest to check/compare sys.path and the output of
>>> "print gtk")... but in their place, I guess I would just answer "if you
>>> install libraries from upstream sources, you should know what you are
>>> doing".
>>
>> No, my python gtk is not messed up. Python is as it was installed, and
>> possibly with a few automatic updates done by the OS. The only mess that
>> needs to be undone is something related to what my actions with the
>> PyGTK source. It did *not* affect what is installed, I do not know why.
>> I need help here! There are things I have never done before, or did just
>> indirectly.
>>
>> Note that all other programs (or similar) that I manipulated source code
>> did not have any problem. Configured, built, installed and tested,
>> everything was fine.
>>
>> With PyGTK, the tests I am doing are not working. This is possibly a
>> consequence of something not being made as it should, or a few steps
>> that were not done. This is where I looking for help in this list.
>>
>> 'apt-get source' and 'dpkg-b..p' are not an option because the version
>> they get is not as new as I want. And the projects are open source! "You
>> should know what you are doing". That is a harsh way to put it, it
>> leaves empty someone trying to really use valuable things, instead of
>> just knowing that "it exists, but only someone else is able to use
>> those". We should be able to use the source codes as the official
>> projects make them available - or we should put a bug report about
>> exceptions, problems? I have a reasonable experience with sources, but I
>> do not know everything - not even close to that! Why is it being so hard
>> to get some help here?
>>
>> I think I have showed enough of what I have done and the results of each
>> action. If something else is needed, just ask. If something did not work
>> as it should, please point it, as it should be a clue to where the
>> problem is. And the problem is not the fact I am using the projects'
>> source code. Right? Yes! I am trying the best possibilities I have.
>>
>>
> I may be directing this to the wrong email. If so, please excuse me
> and let me know.
>
> Anyway, I have followed the pygtk mailing list for a year now, just to
> know what is going on in the pygtk world. Partly because I was
> instrumental in getting Pycam ported to Gtk3 and GObject Introspection
> (a work in progress). And partly because I never programmed pygtk,
> always Gtk3.
>
> My question is, why are you trying to compile pygtk from source? I
> mean, why not port gajim to Gtk3? I checked gajim's site and see they
> are using pygtk, but maybe they need someone to port it to Gtk3;)
> IMHO, you are wasting your time playing with pygtk, seeing how active
> this list is (sarcasm intended) , but maybe you lots of play time.
>
> As a side note, it took me about a total of one days time to port
> Pycam to Gtk3 (with the help from the original Pycam devs).
>
> Note two, at some point in the near future, the community will drop
> pygtk and all the software that depends on it. This just happened to
> some of Mono based software. In the end I was happy, because I found
> better software to replace it.
>
> Yours, Reuben
> _______________________________________________
> pygtk mailing list   [hidden email]
> http://mailman.daa.com.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pygtk
> Read the PyGTK FAQ: http://faq.pygtk.org/

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